Lee interviews former CIA analyst Ray McGovern. He co-created Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) to expose how intelligence was being falsified to justify war in Iraq. The activists behind VIPS have played a role in unraveling the lies that we’re told by our government on a daily basis. A VIPS report after the 2016 election found that the data leak exposing DNC emails must have come from inside the DNC. Lee and McGovern discuss Julian Assange, the ever-collapsing Russiagate narrative, and more from the intelligence world.
Naomi Karavani reports on a new policing pseudo-science that lets cops receive training in identifying liars and then use that skill to harass the public. The evidence behind these practices isn’t convincing but that has never stopped our police state from implementing damaging procedures before. Anders Lee finishes off the episode by looking back at a 1970s labor strike by US Postal Service employees that could inform this moment in history.
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